Sony count sold in the exact same way MS and Nintendo do. I really don't understand the people who claim that when Sony say they 'sold' an amount of units they mean to consumers. It is the retailers who they sell too. However if Sony say 'sellthrough' then that is an estimation of how many have reached consumers, as the units have been sold through the retailers. There is a big difference between 'sold' and 'sellthrough.'
Ocassionally So...
Bubble up for helpfulness Eagle.
Well done Halo.
Looks like GT5 is the only thing left that has a chance of beating Halo this year.
Edit: Oh yeah sorry black ops too. I forgot the US existed for a second ;)
Why are people so defensive about sales? It doesn't matter!
Version tested: PS3
But hey, why let facts and actually bothering to read the information get in the way of a good anti edge rant.
Sheep.
So why then use vgc if NPD gives more accurate numbers, wouldn't NPD accuracy and vgc inaccuracy make vgc irrelevant?
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For a few reasons. Firstly NPD doesn't actually give out numbers to us anymore and even when they did they were purely for America. VGC estimate worldwide sales. NPD accuracy doesn't have to make the free VGC service irrelevent - VGC can adjust their numbers if they need and they provide weekly estimates unlike NPD.
'Mint NPD gets paid by the 3 video game publishers to track the sales of their consoles, so no NPD does not predict numbers, they get retail sales data of units sold, vgc however make predictions and uses very little hard numbers.'
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NPD does predict numberes because they do not get data from 100% of the market. Therefore they must estimate the numbers that they don't recieve on top of the numbers that they do get. That is the SAME as vgchartz ...
'VGChartz numbers, when compared to NPD data is often as much as 30% off'
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30%? Thats a random number to claim? Do you sit at home calculating the differences? Anyway, as you say, NPD uses estimates just like VgChartz although I agree they are more accurate - they have to be with the sample size.
'even VGChartz themselves runs a disclaimers saying "Don't take our weekly data seriously.'
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@vhero
And Sony doesn't use the same tactics? Uncharted 2 for example has been part of a bundle since its release. These are legitimate marketing tools, but as soon as MS does them its evil? My god.
I'm pretty sure there was a resident evil themed 360 too. MS does bundle 3rd party games, just as much as Sony.
I understand you won't listen to my argument though because MS are pure evil and are responsible for the financial cr...
Add in the lame marketing theory.
In my mind it is simple and that it is a technical problem, with the explanation this article is giving as the most legit. There is NO way Sony would have wanted to delay the game considering the shaky reputation it already had with regards to actually releasing.
Forza 3 isn't in the same league as GT5.
GT5 is now trying to compete with Duke Nukem forever for the most delayed game ever award. :)
I don't think you will appreciate that joke as much Shadowflare. After all that humour that you rightly think is needed doesn't extend to joking about Sony as much as MS does it?
At least it will have done better than the psp then!
I don't care about playstation vs xbox but I sure do enjoy epic fails.
Would you complain about a bug in a FIFA game that prevented any team from scoring? No that would be stupid. So complaining about people worried about a bug that means that cars can go as fast in the wet on SLICKS than in the dry is silly. Especially as Codemasters advertised the game as a realistic sim. Nothing compared to the fake AI/ timing issue though, that is a gamebreaker.
Its a shame because playing this game in time trial mode for example is a joy to behold. It has...
I have the ps3 version and I have the pit stop bug. Please get out of the PS3's arse, all versions are affected.
Forza Hamilton!
I hope its realisitic. Vettel won't be able to pass without crashing into Jenson Button's sidepod and/or the barrier :D
@mindedone
I see your point but I stick by mine. When referring to a company and not a singular businessman for example, you are referring to their collective entities. For example it would be 'Manchester United have bought Cristiano Ronaldo,' not has.
Man what a boring conversation to have, sorry everyone ifyou actually read this.
I'm so with you. Day 1!
I haz cheezburger:
Interesting that you are interested in grammar looking at your username :)
Microsoft (plural) have (plural) a solution. Tick.
Microsoft (plural has (singular) a solution. Tut tut.
The error is with you my friend.
What standards does N4G have when someone gets only agrees for stating he doesn't read an article on an article submission based site? Oh dear.
MS do only do shipped numbers. But so do Sony, Nintendo, Apple, Adidas, Nike etc etc. Your post makes you seem like the stupid one.
I don't know where this shipped vs sold became such a big deal. Move has sold well. Sony have said they have sold 2.5 million and seeing as its in short supply we must assume most of those have gone from the retailers to the consumers.
Move has done well.